“In 1976, the writer Ivan Illich warned in a book, Limits to Medicine, that 'the medical establishment has become a major threat to health'. At the time, he was dismissed as a maverick, but a quarter of a century later, even the medical establishment is prepared to admit that he may well be right. (Anthony Browne, April 14, 2002, the Observer)”

History and science have shown us that the existence of the disease of alcoholism is pure speculation. Just saying it’s so, doesn’t make it true.

Nevertheless, medical professionals and American culture lovingly embraced the disease concept and quickly applied it to every possible deviant behavior from alcohol abuse to compulsive lecturing.

The disease concept was a panacea for many failing medical institutions adding billions to the industry and leading to a prompt evolution of pop-psychology.

Research has shown that alcoholism is a choice, not a disease, and stripping alcohol abusers of their choice, by applying the disease concept, is a threat to the health of the individual.

In a recent Gallup poll, 90% of people surveyed believe that alcoholism is a disease. Most argue that because the American Medical Association (AMA) has proclaimed alcoholism a disease, the idea is without reproach.

But, the fact is that the AMA made this determination in the absence of empirical evidence. After reviewing the history of the decision, it would not be unreasonable to suggest that the AMA has been pursuing its own agenda in the face of evidence negating the validity of alcoholism.

While the AMA has made extraordinary contributions in the mental health field, it is not outside the box. The AMA is a part of the capitalist paradigm that is necessary for our society to function.

The promulgation of the disease concept, in conjunction with AMA approval, has created a multi-billion dollar treatment industry that contributes billions to the health care industry.

But, with their status, mistakes in classifications can and do result in disastrous consequence. While the AMA’s classifications for the most part are accurate, the organization is not without error. Since its inception the AMA has made classifications of varying “deviant” behaviors without scientific research to validate its claims.

And, for whatever reason, the definition of a disease, as set forth by the AMA, is a malleable and all inclusive definition allowing for the inclusion of almost every deviant behavior. As a result, every unwanted behavior can be medicalized and medically treated thereby providing professionals with more patients and more income.

While many advocate for its benefits, the disease concept has proven to be far more damaging to the substance abuser then anyone could have predicted.

Therapists claim the disease concept helps the patient to understand the seriousness of [his/her] problems.

But in reality, this idea has backfired.

The disease concept strips the substance abuser of responsibility. A disease cannot be cured by force of will, therefore, adding the medical label transfers the responsibility from the abuser to others. Inevitably they become unwilling victims, and inevitably they take on that role.

In retrospect then, the disease concept has effectively increased alcoholism and drug abuse. Furthermore, its only benefit has been vast monetary reward for the professionals’ and governmental agencies responsible for providing recovery services. Specifically, it has not offered a solution for those attempting to stop abusive alcohol and drug use.

Further, it is beyond the grasp of logic for medical professionals to prescribe meeting attendance as a remedy for an “incurable” medical ailment, not to mention a contradiction to the supposed nature of the problem.

Medical professionals are admittedly incapable of helping drug addicts and alcoholics so they pass the buck. But, because of recidivism rates and treatment failure, the buck is passed right back.

Patients in search of help, pay, on average, over $18,000 (BRI 2003) to attend programs based on principals promulgated by 12 step groups. After an array of varying forms of “therapy” the patient is released with a prescription for life long attendance to AA or NA meetings.

In treatment and 12 step groups the individual is told that they can only live “one day at a time.”

Additionally, they are told that they should never be fooled into believing they can be cured, and if they don’t attend meetings they will inevitably fall prey to their “disease doing push-ups in the parking lot.”

The disease, as described by 12 steppers, is all powerful; it is a separate entity and without meetings it will destroy them. But, with some thought one realizes, these ideas are mutually excusive. To point out the obvious, if someone is “powerless” they would, by definition, not be able to control themselves, not even one day at a time.

The absurdities do not stop with 12 Step groups; professionals contribute their own set of absurdities. For example, the AMA’s definition of alcoholism is: “Alcoholism is an illness characterized by preoccupation with alcohol and loss of control over its consumption, such as to lead usually to intoxication if drinking; by chronicity, by progression and by a tendency toward relapse.

It is typically associated with physical disability and impaired emotional, occupational and/or social adjustments as a direct consequence of persistent excessive use (Langone 27).”

A natural assumption would be that the classification of a disease requires that characteristics and symptoms can be measured or observed.

While the majority of diseases fit this requirement, substance abuse does not.

The contradiction to these requirements lies within the defined nature of “alcoholism.” This supposed disease’s symptoms are only discovered after the consumption of alcohol. The health risks, dangerous behaviors and repercussions only materialize after the alcohol is consumed and not before.

In comparison, the diagnosis for cancer comes after symptoms surface or cancerous cell are discovered. There are physically visible anomalies that can be measured. This measurement does not exist with alcoholics. The majority of time, the diagnoses of alcoholism is a guess, if indeed such a diagnosis actually exists.

There is little question that a person exposed to carcinogens or radiation will eventually get cancer.

With alcohol it is questionable if a person will become a problem drinker if exposed to alcohol. While cancer is a separate entity of its own within the body that first exists without the knowledge of its host, over consumption of alcohol, a substance consumed by choice, is necessary before a diagnosis can be made.

That is to say that one must choose to create the condition before the condition can be diagnosed.

Furthermore, consider the following taken from CNE Health. “From doctors and patients to drug companies and the media, there are relentless pressures to classify any condition as a disease.

Richard Smith, the British Medical Journals editor, wrote: 'Doctors, particularly some specialists, may welcome the boost to status, influence and income that comes when new territory is defined as medical.

International pharmaceutical companies have an apparent interest in medicalising life's problems. Dr Iona Heath, head of ethics at the Royal College of General Practitioners, warns that there could also be clear downsides: 'Alternative approaches - emphasizing the self-limiting or relatively benign natural history of a problem or the importance of personal coping strategies - are played down or ignored.

The disease-mongers gnaw away at our self-confidence. Inappropriate medicalisation carries the dangers of unnecessary labeling, poor treatment decisions, economic waste, as well as the costs that result when resources are diverted from treating or preventing more serious disease. At a deeper level, it may help to feed obsessions with health.”(CNE Health)

Then there is the DSM IV criterion for diagnosing alcohol abuse. It also does not include physically measurable symptoms. It only requires social and/or legal problems.

The DSM IV criterion for diagnosing alcohol dependence requires only one physical symptom that is a result of drinking too much, which is alcohol withdrawal.

Following this logic, if a person smokes cigarettes they do not have a problem, but, when they stop smoking and go through nicotine withdrawal, they are then diseased.

Yet, most treatment professionals seem oblivious to these blatant contradictions. (Keep in mind that cigarette smoking is not a disease according to DSM IV, although it causes far more health problems than does the use of alcohol and other drugs combined.)

Sociologist and psychologist have long since been aware of the dangers of medicalising deviant behaviors. Most encourage extreme caution when diagnosing mental illness because of the potential for damage in doing so. People who are labeled usually conform to the standards that the label calls for whether the diagnoses is correct or not. Its dangerous ground that is commonly tread upon by professionals today.

What’s even more disheartening is that a large percentage of diagnoses are not made by doctors, but by unqualified “drug counselors.”

Treatment and AA are recommended by counselors as a way to “nip it in the bud” but these recommendations do far more damage to the individual than if they had just been left alone (which will be discussed later).

It should be pointed out that there is a major conflict of interest among drug counselors, a conflict of interest that cannot be ignored. The majority are, themselves, members of 12 step groups and are believers in AA dogma. These non-professional counselors have been manipulated into believing 12-Step propaganda. And, like the AMA, their status allows them to convince patients they need help because they are sick.

The disease concept oozes into every crevice of our society perpetuating harmful misinformation that hurts the very people it was intended to help.

It is a backwards situation where the assumptions of a few were adopted as fact by the medical profession, without evidence, and soon after, accepted by the public. With this said, visiting the history of the disease concept gives us all a better understanding of how and why all of this happened.

It is speculated that the disease concept originated in the 1800's with a fellow by the name of Dr. Benjamin Rush. He believed alcoholics were diseased and used the idea to promote his prohibitionist political platform.

He also believed that dishonesty, political dissention and being of African American decent were diseases as well. The “disease concept” was used throughout the late 1800’s and early 1900’s by prohibitionists and those involved in the Temperance Movement to further a political agenda.

Prior to this time, the term alcoholic did not exist. Alcohol was freely consumed but, drunkenness was not tolerated.

Many sociologists contribute its non-existence to the very stigma the disease concept removes. In fact, “Despite an ardent search, however, temperance adherents never identified an account of a drunkard before the 1800’s who reported that he has lost control of his drinking.” (Stanton Peele “Diseasing of America” pg 37)

“Drunkenness was not so much seen as the cause of deviant behavior-in particular crime and violence- as it was construed as a sign that an individual was willing to engage in such behavior.” (H.G. Levine, “The Good Creature of God and the Demon Rum,” in Alcohol and Disinhibitition, eds. R. Room and G. Collins.)

During this period of time social ties and family played a much more influential role in an individual’s life. Therefore, deviant behaviors were undesirable and less likely to occur. It was not until industrialization began, when the importance of social ties diminished, that alcoholism became a problem. We now live in a society that encourages binge drinking as a social norm, but at the same time, we live in a society that discourages it.

The “recovery” community’s adoption of the disease concept began with an early AA member named Marty Mann. Her efforts, combined with a somewhat dubious scientist named E.M. Jellinek, began national acceptance of the disease concept.

It was Jellinek’s “scientific” study that opened the door for the medical communities’ support. E.M. Jellinek’s study was funded by the efforts of Marty Mann. And, like so many other circumstances involving Jellinek and Marty Mann, the study was bogus if not outright fraudulent.

The surveys he based his conclusions on were from a hand picked group of alcoholics. There were 158 questionnaires handed out and 60 of them were suspiciously not included. His conclusion was based on less than 100 hand picked alcoholics chosen by Marty Mann.

Mrs. Mann, of course, had a personal agenda to remove the stigma about the homeless and dirty alcoholic or “bowery drunk” in order to gain financial support from the wealthy. By removing the stigma, the problem becomes one of the general population, which would then include the wealthy.

The first step was Jellinek publishing his findings in his book "The Stages of Alcoholism.” Later, E.M. Jellinek was asked by Yale University to refute his own findings. He complied. E.M. Jellinek’s Stages of Alcoholism did not stand up to scientific scrutiny.

Earlier in this century, the validity of the disease concept was often debated in medical circles.

However, in 1956 the American Medical Association (AMA) proclaimed alcoholism an "illness." Then, in 1966, the AMA proclaimed alcoholism a disease.

The decision was wrapped in controversy. Historically, Marty Mann had her hand in much of this and manipulated information and doctors into agreeing with the disease concept. Marty Mann used her position as founder of the NCA (National Counsel for Alcoholism) to promote the disease concept through Jellinek and a somewhat clandestine relationship with the founder of the NIAAA (National Institute for Alcoholism and Alcohol Abuse) whose founder worked with Marty Mann during the institute’s early development.

The founder of NIAAA (Smithers) was a major contributor to and promoter of the disease concept. It was his money that funded Jellinek’s work at Yale. Smithers was also responsible for gaining insurance coverage for patients in treatment (hence the 28 day program).

Smithers was certainly not altruistic in his efforts. At that time he had already launched a treatment program for which he was lobbying for insurance payments.

Acceptance by the medical community was the only way this could happen; alcoholism had to be a medical problem in order for medical insurance to pay for programs. We can see the influence of these “advances” everyday in treatment programs. Today the treatment industry is a multi-billion dollar industry, with insurance paying the lion’s share of the costs.

While it can be argued that Smithers’s efforts played an important role, it was Jellinek’s study that was such a monumental turning point for the supporters of the disease concept it.

The current disease paradigm was, in part, developed and promulgated by Jellinek and various other partial participants with personal agendas.

Today, Jellinek’s “Stages of the Alcoholic” is still widely used to diagnose substance abusers. But, these stages are based on a corrupt study that the author, himself, later refuted. Jellinek not only published a fraudulent study, he defrauded members of his academic community, and apparently lied about his educational background to gain acceptance.

Nonetheless, it was Jellinek’s “Stages of the Alcoholic” that led to diagnosing alcoholism as a disease and eventually to the medical acceptance of alcoholism as a disease. Astoundingly, the inception of the current disease and treatment paradigm is based on fraud.

But the misinformation and fraud did not stop with Jellinek, et al. More recently in an attempt to prove a genetic link for alcohol and drug abuse, most studies only provide roundabout evidence of a predisposition, not a cause for alcoholism.

With this said, we should point out that the predisposition can only prove a difference in bodily processes, not a difference in thinking.

'Knowing the sequence of individual genes doesn't tell you anything about the complexities of what life is,' said Dr. Brian Goodwin, a theoretical biologist at Schumacher College in Devon, England, and a member of the Santa Fe Institute in New Mexico.

Goodwin goes on to explain single gene mutations are not accountable for, and cannot explain, complex behaviors. Genes produce proteins they do not guide behaviors. The truth is a predisposition for substance abuse, if it does exist, has no bearing on subsequent behaviors.

Chemical processes do not make a person an alcoholic. The person makes the conscience choice. Altered processing of alcohol in no way determines choice or behaviors. Obsessive drinking is not a reaction to bodily processes, but merely a choice. The amount consumed is determined by the individual not by the body.

Nevertheless, news stories surface every year proclaiming discoveries of the genetic sources of emotional and behavioral problems while ignoring the mountains of evidence that refutes such preposterous assertions.

Genetics is the new panacea for medical professionals. Since 1987 such reports have appeared on the front page of The New York Times in connection with manic-depressive disorder, schizophrenia, homosexuality, drug abuse and alcoholism.

For example, in the early 1990’s the Times published a front page story with the headline “Alcoholism Gene Found.” However, soon after, the Times published a story titled "Scientists Now Doubt They Found Faulty Gene Linked to Mental Illness."

This was not on the front page like the initial story but deep within the paper (Stanton Peele). In the study a genetic marker was found in 69% of 70 cadavers who had died from alcohol related deaths.

But, the cadavers only represented 5% of the American population. According to the study 25% of the population has the "alcoholism gene marker" or genetic predisposition. The actual alcoholic population is 10%. It was then found that only 1/5 of the 25% that have the marker would develop alcoholic drinking that fit the parameters of those involved in the Blum-Noble study. Therefore the results fail to demonstrate any increased vulnerability to alcoholism.

In later articles it was revealed that the genetic marker appears to have little to do with becoming an alcoholic. Not surprising, the AMA supported the faulty findings with limited investigation. The two members of the team who reported the false discovery of the gene were not without bias. Ernest Noble is the former director of the NIAAA and Blum, a Pharmacologist for Texas University, markets his own remedy for the malady in the form of supplements.

“Subsequently, a team of three genetics researchers summarized the results of research on the Blum and Noble "alcoholism gene:" excluding results from studies Blum himself conducted, "the frequency of the A1 allele at DRD2 is 0.18 in alcoholics, 0.18 in controls (random population and nonalcoholic), and 0.18 in severe alcoholics.

Blum et al. reported allele frequencies for their alcoholics that are significantly different from the combined allele frequencies reported by a total of seven other groups of investigators for alcoholics (p <.001)." (J Gelernter, D Goldman, N Risch, The A1 allele at the D2 dopamine receptor gene and alcoholism: a reappraisal, JAMA, 1993;269:1676) (Stanton Peele, the Bottle in the Gene)

Looking at the situation objectively, if alcoholism is passed through genes, the abnormality must be relatively new. As stated previously, alcoholism did not exist in the early colonization of America. In fact, it did not exist until the late 1700’s.

Some would argue that the residents of the United States are largely immigrants and as a result the alcoholism gene was introduced later in history. Meaning, the “new” citizens are not of the same family tree as those of the 1700’s.

But, its important to point out, many cultures outside of the United States do not even know what alcoholism is; they do not have a word for it. People with different cultural backgrounds do not have different genetic make-ups.

America’s arrogance has led the population to believe that we are scientifically more advanced than other cultures; therefore, we know the truth and they do not. But this is far from true.

In a country where we claim to “know the truth”, the city of Los Angeles has more addicts than all of Europe. While professionals strive to remove the stigma surrounding alcoholics, they are in essence, removing the social unacceptability of the act. By removing the stigma, they are encouraging this socially unacceptable behavior to continue. We replaced the negative stigma with positive acceptance.

Today the AMA reports that while there is no "alcoholic personality," it does not seem unreasonable to believe that there may be "some combination of personality traits which are contributive to the development of alcoholism.”

They assert that emotional immaturity and strong dependency needs are commonly seen in alcoholics.

While researchers work hard to prove the disease concept, sound, and verifiable, repeatedly studies refute the impact of genetic predispositions.

“A great deal of evidence, more consistent and extensive than anything yet established by biological research, shows that social categories are the best predictors of drinking problems and alcoholism. For example, in one study of Boston ethnics, Irish Americans were seven times as likely to become alcoholic over a 40-year period as Italian Americans living in the same neighborhoods.

"Research uniformly finds alcoholism to be 3 to 10 times as prevalent among men as among women. Even researchers with a biological orientation acknowledge that group differences of such magnitude cannot be explained by genetic factors; certainly no such genes have been identified.” (Peele, Second Thoughts about a Gene for Alcoholism)

Strangely, cultural groups that don’t believe they can control their drinking have higher rates of alcoholism than those who believe they can.

The NIAAA (National Institute of Alcoholism and Alcohol Abuse) found that 1 in 4 children in the US have been exposed to a family member who was/is an alcoholic before the age of 18.

In 1974 an estimate was developed by Booz-Allen Hamilton based on the ratio of problem drinkers in the US, and the average number of children a family has.

This method was then applied by the Children of Alcoholics Foundation in 1984, and it is estimated that 6,600,000 adolescents were children of alcoholics (Keep in mind that there are 195,000,000 people in the United States, so the number looks large.

But, in comparison to the overall population it is not). Another estimate, using the 1980 population census, puts the number of COA's (Children of Alcoholics) at 22,000,000.

It has also been found that children exposed to the idea that they will inevitably become alcoholic drinkers should they decide to drink, and those who enter support groups, have lower self-esteem and increased feelings of depression, two characteristics of every substance abuser.

Similar to treatment for substance abusers overall, children entering support groups as a result of familial problems are more likely to develop the same or similar problems themselves.

Furthermore, it has been shown in numerous studies that COA’s are only 6% more likely to become problem drinkers. Like the need for a war on drugs, the idea that COA’s will inevitably become alcoholics, is pure propaganda. Teaching children they will face inevitable consequence upon the consumption of substances, for many, creates the problem.

It seems that self-proclaimed treatment professionals, blinded by intention, are ignoring the overwhelming evidence that contradicts the very principles they teach. True scientist and medical professionals know, beyond reasonable doubt, the truth about alcoholism and substance abuse.

The rise of pop-psychology has clouded reasonable thought. Self-help groups, treatment “therapy,” counselors, and groupers are severely damaging the very people they are whole-heartedly trying to help. Twelve-Step dogma and treatment misinformation contradicts empirical evidence and rational thought, in essence, stripping patients and members of inherent and inbred abilities of spontaneous recovery.

While the NCADD (National Counsel on Alcoholism and Drug Dependence), formally the NCA, claims to “fight the stigma and the disease of alcoholism and other drug addictions,” its happy-go-lucky explanations of alcoholism and its nature are insultingly unsound.

The NIAAA and the NCADD are two adamant supporters of the disease concept and 12 step therapies.

But, as previously stated, they are not altruistic in their efforts. These two organizations fund most of the treatment research that goes on in the United States. And, like Marty Mann, pick and choose those studies that fit the organizations’ agendas, or they manipulate and reinterpret the outcomes in their own favor. Thus, they receive funding to preserve themselves.

This fact is applicable across the board for all certifying governmental organizations and institutions. In truth, whether intentional or not, its is pure genius,. By filtering the facts, these organizations have “created” the necessity for themselves. They have created a public perception that they are needed by controlling and manipulating substance abuse information.

It has been estimated that 5.5 million Americans are in need of help for substance abuse issues. In 1988, 10.5 million U.S. residents could be diagnosed with alcohol dependency as set forth by the AMA and DSM IV, and 7.2 million more abused alcohol. Estimates among the general population indicate that 6-12% have substance abuse problems.

The population of substance abusers has slowly increased since the 1930’s coinciding with the spread of the disease concept and governmental interference in individual freedoms.

What is interesting is that since the 70’s the percentage substance abuse population has increased dramatically, just like the popularity and prevalence of the drug treatment industry. The question is: if the multi-billion dollar war on drugs and the multi-billion dollar treatment industry have been growing, why does the drug problem continue to get worse?

Irrefutable empirical evidence has shown that organizations and institutions who promote, and adhere to, the disease concept, fail when trying to help people with substance abuse problems.

Alcoholics Anonymous has successfully promoted itself as the only hope for alcohol abusers. The public perception is that Alcoholics Anonymous works, but the reality is something completely different.

In 65 years Alcoholics Anonymous has become a part of our social structure. Its tenets have led the medical establishment and been used to diagnose patients with alcoholism while simultaneously giving birth to dozens of spin-off anonymous meetings.

It’s most outstanding accomplishment has been successfully promoting a fictitious disease, as fact, and to be absorbed into the very fabric of our society.

But, while Alcoholics Anonymous has accomplished the unthinkable, its accomplishments have damaged the society. Although its intentions are synonymous with help, the organization’s lies and manipulations have damaged society as a whole, costing taxpayers billions of dollars and costing families the lives of their loved ones.

In 1990, the Alcoholic’s Anonymous General Services Office or AA GSO, the governing organization overseeing all “autonomous” meetings, published an internal memo for the employees of its offices.

It was an analysis of a survey period between 1977 and 1989. The results were in absolute contrast to the public perception of AA. “After just one month in the Fellowship, 81% of the new members have already dropped out. After three months, 90% have left, and a full 95% have disappeared inside one year!” (Kolenda, 2003, Golden Text Publishing Company)

That means that in under a year, 95% of the people seeking help from AA leave the program. While this only speaks for attendance, it has further implications. AA surveyors do not include dropouts in their sobriety statistics, which is a deceptive, if not outright dishonest, practice.

Using the AA GSO statistics, and including the program dropouts, the success rate of AA, as a whole “…the total averages of sobriety for the total AA membership become 3.7% for one year [of sobriety], and 2.5% over five years.” (Kolenda, 2003, Golden Text Publishing Company) It’s important to understand that 95% of all substance abuse treatment centers in the United States are 12 step based programs. Thus, the failures of AA, are also the failures of treatment.

Repeated studies have shown that the average person, who could be diagnosed with a substance abuse problem, will discontinue use on their own 20-30% of the time.

But, those who are exposed to AA and treatment, and who are taught the disease concept, have a drastically decreased chance of achieving sobriety. While treatment professionals are aware of program failure, governing organizations support and promote the adoption of 12 Step tenets into treatment programs for substance abusers.

Families pay tens of thousands of dollars to help their loved ones only to place them in programs that follow guidelines of another failing program. Any program based on a program that fails will inevitably fail. For most, 12 Step has become synonymous with failure.

In contrast, programs that teach control and choice are far more successful than programs that teach the disease concept.

While conventional treatment methods result in a 3% success rate after five years, programs that do not teach the disease concept, and instead teach choice, have success rates of 86% after five and even ten years (Baldwin Research Institute 2003).

In conclusion, after reviewing the available research from both sides of the debate, the belief in the disease of alcoholism, creates the existence of the disease.

Organizations and institutions that promote the disease concept are, in many cases, doing irreparable harm to the individual and performing a disservice to the population as a whole.

Geneticists are aware that a predisposition does not dictate subsequent behavior, and treatment professionals are aware that the programs they offer, fail.

It is an outright injustice when faced with the facts. Stripping human beings of their ability to choose is damaging, whereas giving them back the power of their own volition is essential for recovery. Alcoholism is a choice, not a disease.

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Timothy J. Falcone, Copyright 2003 Baldwin Research Institute, Inc.

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Comment #1 (Posted by an unknown user) Rating: ratingfullratingfullratingfullratingfullratingfull Unrated
Really liked the information and opinions expressed.I am using this to help back up my own opinions for my abnormal psychology class.Our paper was on Alcoholism: Choice or Disease.Thanks for being strong enough to stand up for your own ideas and not fall into the bed of political opinions. Heather Love
Comment #2 (Posted by an unknown user) Rating: ratingfullratingfullratingfullratingemptyratingempty Unrated
I really enjoyed your writings. Thank you for being honest. I was doing research for myself. I am a counsleor not in recovery,but very interested in choice or disease
Comment #3 (Posted by Tim Moriarty) Rating: ratingfullratingfullratingfullratingemptyratingempty Unrated
I have been a member of AA for over 18 yrs. I have not had a drink of alcohol in all that time either. And the wonderful part is, I don't want one! I attend meetings on a regular basis. The AA program teaches me a spiritual way of life which I find attractive, and very rewarding. I think this article is much to hard on the program of Alcoholics Anonymous. AA is a not a dishonest program! We may have some dishonest members, but doesn't every group? Believe me, "if you are finding individuals who are being dishonest they do not represent AA". The program of Alcoholics Anonymous does not have any opinions on outside issues, our primary purpose is to stay sober and help other alcoholics to achieve sobriety as defined in the twelve steps. The twelve steps are but suggestions. The 8th step says that we have a disease of the attitudes. I agree! Give AA a break, we are not out to hurt anyone. I will always be grateful for the help I found in AA! Now I would like to thank you for this very informative and thought provoking article. I can't tell you how many times I've cringed and felt absolutely embarressed at the sound of someone saying that their alcohol problem is a disease. In my opinion they are going contrary to what the 9th step teaches about personal responsibility. I whole heartedly agree that the professonals have found a cash cow and they are milking it for all it's worth. And I agree, and so do many others in AA, that these so called therapists are causing more harm than good. It is my opinion and that of others that society is being hurt by these carpetbaggers and so is the very wonderful program of AA. The principals of the program remain the same for the time being but I fear what big money will do to it in the future!
Comment #4 (Posted by an unknown user) Rating: ratingfullratingfullratingfullratingfullratingfull Unrated
It's about time someone point out the harm in calling a behavior a disease. The problem is that just about everyone has a relative or loved one who is an alcoholic, so they prefer to think of them as a victim rather than a person who makes bad decisions. We've become a culture which seeks something to take the blame, and nothing is more perfect than to assign that blame to a "disease."
Comment #5 (Posted by Kristin) Rating: ratingfullratingfullratingfullratingemptyratingempty Unrated
I loved your article and I myself have a father who has spent the majority of his youth in rehab for Alcohol abuse, I'm happy to see that there are many people out there that feel as I do, It's a chice not a disease and coming from someone who has a loved one that has had to deal with this issue and from someone who cares for in home patients, it's nice to see someone break out of the box and called it like it is... I believe in speaking up for what it right and I believe this article is right on the money... Great job, hats off to the Author of this piece!!!
Comment #6 (Posted by Sherrie) Rating: ratingfullratingfullratingfullratingfullratingfull Unrated
I agree with your artical 100%. I know someone struggling with alcholism and feels completly helpless because of all this nonsense. I would like to get him help to show him that he can do this but ever where I turn it is the disease concept. Everyone tells him he needs AA. This problem needs to be addressed. It is not fair to make people think they are subjected to a life of doom. Any recommendations for him would be great appreciated. Thanks again for addressing this problem Sherrie
Comment #7 (Posted by aa) Rating: ratingfullratingfullratingfullratingemptyratingempty Unrated
Read the AA's 12 traditions before you say anything about AA as a million dollar industry.. Just leave AA alone.Stop sourgraping.
Comment #8 (Posted by jhon) Rating: ratingfullratingfullratingfullratingfullratingfull Unrated
i like the information beacuse i was researching for this and i found what i want it. Thanks for you opinion.lol
Comment #9 (Posted by lisa) Rating: ratingfullratingemptyratingemptyratingemptyratingempty Unrated
Sounds like a sore-loser minority view. AA and related programs are all about choice.. anyone is free to leave or stay. Our primary purpose is to stay sober and help other alcoholics achieve sobriety. If that isn't choice, just exactly how do you define it??
Comment #10 (Posted by Ladyrhonda) Rating: ratingfullratingfullratingfullratingfullratingfull Unrated
I think if more people knew this information, they wouldnt waste time in AA. I did my research, I made peace with myself and chose Rational Recovery as my way of dealing with my alcoholism. In fact, I no longer consider myself an alcoholic because I am done drinking forever. Once I realized the "choice" i had was that "there was no other choice", it was easy for me to quit. You just tell that "voice" to shut up - period. I didnt want anyone to tell me that i couldnt do it without going to meetings. well, i did it. on my own. no rehab, no meetings. Get the book. it works!
Comment #11 (Posted by AA guy) Rating: ratingfullratingemptyratingemptyratingemptyratingempty Unrated
You obviously know nothing about alcoholism and should just shut up! Your ignorance is astounding.
Comment #12 (Posted by FOR REAL) Rating: ratingfullratingfullratingfullratingfullratingfull Unrated
Oh please AA guy, the person who wrote this article is NOT ignorant. They are being honest about human nature. Oh and by the way AA guy, can you help me with my uncontrollable persistent urge to rob banks? I just can't stop! My doctor told me I have a disease called greed. Maybe my "disease" is genetic too? That would be a wonderfully convenient excuse, wouldn't it? I love Dr. Phil.. he says, "you choose the behavior, you choose the consequence." The bottle of booze doesn't jump off the shelf and shove itself into your mouth without your consent day after day after day after day. YOU CHOOSE TO DO IT EVERY TIME. I'm done here.
Comment #13 (Posted by CHOICE!!) Rating: ratingfullratingfullratingfullratingfullratingfull Unrated
I totally agree with FORREAL. My mother and father had a drinking problem, and I'm not a raging alcoholic. I think all these people with their poor me attitude need to quit whinning and take responsibility for your actions. All AA does is enable all you users to get together and throw pity parties, and continue to strip yourself OF YOUR CHOICE to drink. Wake up and smell the roses.
Comment #14 (Posted by Rusty) Rating: ratingfullratingfullratingfullratingfullratingfull Unrated
Great article, you really need to go to only ONE meeting and that is the meeting with YOU and admit to YOU what you have become.As A result of that meeting AA and treatment will be a positiove experience. But you have to be DONE. AA is just a place to go a fellowship.21 years recovered I do not have a disease nor am I a diseased person.
Comment #15 (Posted by an unknown user) Rating: ratingfullratingemptyratingemptyratingemptyratingempty Unrated
For all of you that say Alcoholism is not a disease, I am curious as to what you think of the undisputable evidence provided by brain imagery scans that show differences in the brains of people dependent on alcohol vs. people who are not. Alcohol dependence (alcoholism) is a disease. Alcohol dependence alters parts of the brain from the normal healthy state, this is called disease.1 These brain alterations affect behavior and help perpetuate the disease. Any ongoing debate about whether or not alcoholism is a disease results from a misunderstanding of the definition of both alcoholism and disease. People are not born with the disease of alcohol dependence, although some are genetically predisposed and are therefore at higher risk of developing it. The disease develops from chronic intake of alcohol but does not cause drinking initially. Because of the brain alterations by this disease the craving that an alcohol-dependent person feels for alcohol can be as strong as the need for food or water. An alcohol-dependent person will continue to drink despite serious family, health, or legal problems. Like many other diseases, alcohol dependence (alcoholism) is chronic, meaning that it can last a person's lifetime; it usually follows a predictable course; and it has symptoms.
Comment #16 (Posted by Don) Rating: ratingfullratingfullratingfullratingfullratingfull Unrated
The above is a very good article that will NOT be found in any common rehab. If it is taught that the use booze is a personal choice, then why give thousands for recovery of a disease that does not exist? The world’s top psychologist still debate “nature or nurture”. In other words, at what point do we act out of genetics (no choice as breathing and a heart beating) and that of nurture (a choice that directs our life.)? I have seen NO study that says, “On the sight of Booze the elbow bends automatically, involuntarily, and out of a person’s control.” Not drinking is all about control of ones self. To say you are powerless, (AA and most rehab doctrine) destroys any chance of being abstained from booze, hence the very low ratings for AA--- 5% is no success at all. I can get a 30% rating using bloodletting and leaches to cure the common cold. Accordingly, rehabs and AA will have to do better than 30% to show any meaningful results. NO one disputes the problems caused in society by drugs and alcohol, in particular in law enforcement. Education where a person is trained, taught, to make advantageous rational choices base on the best knowledge available is a very good start to avoid the social ills connected with drug/booze use. The courts are also a very good tool to help people “wise up” as there are direct consequence for behaviors if criminal in any way. NOT withstanding, state’s criminal codes rejects the idea of the disease model of alcohol and drug use. For example: in Oregon Revised Statues (2005) 161.125--- to paraphrase out of legalese: drug use in committing of a crime is NOT a defense, and the person will be charged as if drugs/booze were NOT consumed. The use of drugs/booze is NOT an excuse to do a crime, even though the use of drugs/booze increases inhabitations, the offender is still responsible for their actions. If the state takes the disease model as fact, then every person that commits crimes while intoxicated would go free, as we do NOT put people in jail for having cancer or the common cold. States do prosecute over “free will” crimes, and indeed is the backbone of criminal law enforcement. The disease model goes against every state criminal code, and is not acceptable to society at large regardless of the rehab and AA propaganda. In a free society, where ideas run wild every where on why people drink, we can only use an objective perspective based on behavior and not on any disease. If a person—even of diminished mental capacity, is a danger to themselves and others, we do not allow them to roam around in a free society, as children get hurt to say the least. We, the general public, police and the courts, do not care what subjective points of view a person has---just stay law abiding. If belief in AA, or any other god(s), keeps a person law abiding then we do NOT care; believe as you would and enjoy. However, to say, “drunkenness is a disease, beyond a person’s control, and all of society must be subject to that person’s disease", will NEVER pass the test of common sense. NOT ever as a person has voluntary movements of hand, arm, and mouth. Don
Comment #17 (Posted by AA member) Rating: ratingfullratingfullratingemptyratingemptyratingempty Unrated
Unless you have attended AA meetings and seen what they offer. You have no right talking about them. I have been sober for 4 years and attend AA and NA. All the people in those meetings are supportive and just want me to be happy. There are no dues or fees.... to attend AA or NA. We are not a cult and we don't shove anything down anyone's throat. It is your choice to come to a meeting. If you want to get sober another way, then please do so. AA and NA are just there for fellowship and to make people feel like there are not alone with cravings. I am not insultated with this authors article. I just would hope that before you cast judgement, you need to experience AA for yourself. Whether it is a disease or not. That doesn't matter. All that matters is what the individual does with the knowledge they get. If you know it is a problem, then take care of it. You can make that decision.